Mike Icon
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Mr. Awesome
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Post by Mike Icon on Jul 18, 2005 13:54:04 GMT 10
WWE emphasises on promos? Actually, no. WWE's airtime is mostly dominated by repeated defenses of worthless championships, half-assed chat shows with palm trees and a hammock in the ring, gay weddings, a guy who claimed he was the son of God, a severely obese man humping other wrestlers, a 50-plus year old man flexing and grunting in the ring for fifteen minutes, a superhero that looks fifteen years old with a sidekick that looks like he could EAT him, people pretending to hump corpses, and having the tallest, most muscular people that WWE's "talent" relations department can find being shoved down the viewer's throat on a bi-weekly basis.
WWE isn't wrestling. It's just an embarrassment.
Thanks for playing, Maverick. kthxbai
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Post by Chris Bond on Jul 18, 2005 13:59:40 GMT 10
WWE isn't wrestling. It's just an embarrassment. Thanks for playing, Maverick. You gonna let him talk to you like that Mav? Kick.. his.. ASS!!
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Mike Icon
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Post by Mike Icon on Jul 18, 2005 14:01:27 GMT 10
Psh. He should do himself a favour and go find out a little more about pro wrestling before he comes out with crap like that. WWE is a disgrace to the sport.
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Post by Chris Bond on Jul 18, 2005 14:15:00 GMT 10
Ouch mayne... don't be soo harsh. So the WWE's in a down slump. All they need to do is bring back what works for them, and get away with the RAW Diva's shit and the necrophilia.. then, just maybe, it'll be better for it.
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Post by Maverick on Jul 18, 2005 14:19:44 GMT 10
And the AWO consists of men wearing leather bondage gear, people in birdcages, guys getting electro-shocked with cattle prods, people fighting in a bakery with the aim of getting them into the baking oven, people smashing each other over the head with steel baguettes and a guy in a 10 gallon hat who kicks ass and trashes hotel rooms.
The AWO is more similar in style to the WWE than anything else out there, thanks for re-enforcing my point though.
kthxbai.
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Post by Chris Bond on Jul 18, 2005 14:24:00 GMT 10
Who's the guy in the 10 Gallon Hat?
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Post by Maverick on Jul 18, 2005 14:29:38 GMT 10
Chuck Norris of course.
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Mike Icon
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Post by Mike Icon on Jul 18, 2005 14:32:02 GMT 10
WWE is let down by the following things...
a) Horrible storylines, written by them creative "geniuses" that apparently don't know anything about wrestling or it's history.
b) They dictate how people work their matches. They make people work slow paced matches with "safe" moves.
c) They don't cater for what the fans want.
None of that is going to change unless WWE gets some competition. That's why TNA needs a decent TV deal. At least one can actually believe their storylines.
Maverick, e-feds and real wrestling are totally different. If people want to have goofy storylines on here, that's fine. WWE, on the other hand, take kayfabe, and piss on it. The one thing that makes me really mad is how they treat their championships. Thirty years ago, you could tell me who the AWA World Heavyweight champion was, where they won the title, when they won the title, who they beat for it, and tell me where and when they've defended it, and whom they defended it against. Now? Hell, I doubt anybody here could probably tell me which promotion is USING the title. Just for the sake of enlightenment, Steve Corino won it from Takao Omori in Zero1-MAX.
If the point you were trying to illustrate is that you know nothing about wrestling, good job. If it was merely that there's a difference between e-wrestling and wrestling itself, I suggest you go get a clue. But hey, once again, thanks for playing.
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Post by Prez Shay on Jul 18, 2005 14:58:25 GMT 10
people fighting in a bakery with the aim of getting them into the baking oven I hope you're not saying that that match was a BAD thing... Anyway, I think you're actually both right. For one, Mike is right because WWE does suck. All his points about WHY they suck were completely right. Although he did forget to mention how terribly and utterly predictable they've become. I thought WCW was bad. Well, it was - as far as predictability goes - but WWE are following the same suit. Lita betraying Kane? Who would have thought. Although I must admit I didn't expect Kane to actually beat Edge, cause WWE shafts Kane continuously. And secondly, Mav is right due to the fact that the AWO probably does follow a WWE style more than any other fed. We do have ridiculous and occasionally unbelievable storylines. Although none really spring to mind... unless you count the fact we have Chuck Norris as an active wrestler. So why can't we just agree to disagree? Or better still don't, and I'll make a kickass fued out of it.
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Post by Maverick on Jul 18, 2005 15:04:45 GMT 10
Maverick, e-feds and real wrestling are totally different. WHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAT?!?!?!?!?!?! I'm not trying to put across that I'm some sort of wrestling historian. I'll freely admit that I'm not an expert. I'm not even trying to say that the WWE is the best out there, because it really isn't, so telling me what's wrong with it is completely irrelevant and unnecessary - not unlike yourself. All I'm saying is that stylistically the WWE is more like the AWO than anything else and if you want to try to deny that, which you haven't, then go ahead. It really seems to me that your problem here is with Vince McMahon and I've gotten between you and some deep-seeded issues. Feel free to flame the WWE, but don't try and attack me like I'm some sort of poster boy for them.
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Post by Ice Rock on Jul 18, 2005 22:23:07 GMT 10
Why not just download realplayer and go to tnawrestling and watch tna if WWE sucks so much. They have a new show on their site everyweek and if they had the exposure and people gave them a chance, i believe that TNA could possibly top WWE sometime in the future.
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Mike Icon
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Post by Mike Icon on Jul 19, 2005 6:38:42 GMT 10
I don't deny that AWO is a WWE clone. Why? I wouldn't know. I haven't been around AWO since it was 3GW, and I can't remember much about it then.
The entire point i'm trying to illustrate here is very simple. To talk as though the professional wrestling world begins and ends with WWE is pretty insulting to the sport. WWE is a soap opera with a wrestling ring. Nothing more. As long as they do more things like the Batista/HHH feud, but with better matches, I would actually watch their programming, because it was a believable feud. Sure, we all know that it's staged, but it's entertaining, right? Watching HHH hump a corpse isn't what i'd call entertaining. WWE's only strong point these days is it's production values, and trying to argue that anything else about it is good would be a waste of time, because it just isn't true.
Oh, and as for TNA, I do watch their shows when I can. I like their product. It's unique, and it's pretty believable for the most part.
So, on that note ladies n' gentlemen, I summarise. WWE sucks, and Mike Icon is always right. ;D
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Post by Prez Shay on Jul 19, 2005 14:07:24 GMT 10
Erm... we aren't a WWE clone. If we were, we'd have only real wrestlers allowed, and only wrestlers called Kane, The Rock etc.
Secondly, I hate to break it to you, but every federation is a soap opera in a ring. Sure, ECW may have been more hardcore and more impressive, but that didn't make it any more of a soap opera. Having bizarre storylines doesn't make WWE the Soap Opera of the wrestling world. It makes it the Passions of the wrestling world *shudder*
And WWE was at it's best back when the Ministry was around, and that was the most unbelievable storyline of all. Although I also liked the Invasion, and that was fairly believable for the most part, so maybe you'll agree with me there.
But anyway, we have a similar style, but I wouldn't like to think we're exactly the same. For example, I do intend to actually seriously injure people in matches this year, and not by accident, and not at their request. Muahahaha.
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Mike Icon
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Post by Mike Icon on Jul 19, 2005 15:06:35 GMT 10
Perhaps I was being unfair when I called AWO a WWE clone. I meant that it was the same formula. Then again, perhaps you shouldn't read too much into what I say. Absolutely and utterly not true. Sorry. WWF/E, WCW and ECW were soap operas, sure. You ever watched Ring of Honor? That's what I like to see. There HAVE been ridiculous storylines in ROH, but for the most part, it all comes down to one simple thing. The promoters are trying to make people care about a match, so that people will want to pay to see it. Simple enough, eh? I wonder how many people actually want to see Hulk Hogan vs Shawn Michaels. The funny part is that people will pay to see it anyway. Why? Because there isn't an easily accesable alternative. However, TNA's apparent deal with SpikeTV will change that, I hope. Besides, competition will make WWE work harder. I didn't like the Ministry. The invasion was ok, but "smarks" (read: MORONS) didn't buy it, and the big climax of the storyline kind of sucked. But oh well! That's why I don't watch WWE. Hell, I only need one excuse - Mae Young giving birth to a plastic hand. So, the moral of the story? I really don't like WWE. Now, all I need to do is get that damned NOAH Tokyo dome show.
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Post by Prez Shay on Jul 19, 2005 17:03:02 GMT 10
lmao. Mae Young's hand-child is the perfect reason not to do ANYTHING.
But no, I haven't seen any Ring of Honor. And sometimes ridiculous storylines are good, as long as they're fun to watch. (Note: Screamin' Norman Smiley beating both of Kronik for the Hardcore Title while trying to lose it)
And yes, Shawn Michaels Vs Hulk Hogan will be a snorefest. Also I wish they'd just left Kane and Edge with Kane on top. But he won't end that way. Kane continuously gets screwed. I mean, if they made Kane big but not strong then fine... but they promote him as unstoppable, and he breaks out of everyones finishers and can't be kept down. Yet loses almost every match he's in. Frustrating. Utterly frustrating.
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